No, no no no NO.
It sure as hell is NOT OKAY.
If you are not black don’t say it.
“nigga” and “nigger” are the same word if you’re not black.
It will never be okay, you cannot reclaim a slur that was not directed at your people.
- Susie the moderator
why the fuck can’t people wrap their heads around this shit? it’s like these anons are tryin to get folks’ pressure up.
"Nigga and nigger are the same word if you’re not black."
Brb laughing forever.
They’re actually serious.
did you know that while working in beijing my friend came to realize that they use “niga” in conversation like we use “um”
so let me get this straight…
a black person can refer to me as “cracker” which is short for “whip-cracker” as in one who cracks a whip over slaves, and there’s no outcry for falsely referring to me as a moral criminal guilty of actual slavery.
but when a white person calls a black person “nigger” which is slang for “nigerian” which is a freaking nationality, with no actual berating denotation in the first place… suddenly, MORAL OUTRAGE BLARGABLARGABLARGA!!!
i’m going to call people what i want to call them. and allow everyone else the same freedom to call whoever they want, whatever they want.
i’m kind of egalitarian that way.
Your ignorance is unbecoming, you uneducated swine. Your “egalitarian” thinking is actually racist, but I’m sure you know and I’m sure you do not care.
Are you so daft to think that nigger is the shortened word for Nigeria? I’m actually laughing at your attempt to justify calling a black person nigger by spewing that utter bullshit. The word nigger has never been shortened from anything. “Nigger” is it’s own word used to dehumanize an entire people. With that being said, NOT EVERY BLACK PERSON IS FROM NIGERIA.
I would ask ‘where is your humanity?’, but you have none.
White people making up lies and justifications for racism never has and never will surprise me.
Your people are demonic.YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID!!! YOU’RE THE BIGGEST MORON I’VE EVER SEEN!! Nigger is slang for Nigeria? God, you’re beyond stupid. Please take to seconds to pull your head outta your ass so you can see just how stupid you are. I can’t even deal with this foolishness right now.
okay, so it actually comes from latin word for “black.”
but i’m still missing the part where calling someone the latin word for black somehow actually demeans that person.
regardless of where it comes from. who actually physically suffers from people calling them names?
it’s a word, people. it’s not my problem if you get your panties in a bind over a fucking word.
Words have meaning though, like how hard is it to understand that some words offend people because they’re steeped in racism and discrimination? Why are you so adamant about using it?
so when lil’ wayne or eminem say “nigger” in their songs they’re using it in the context of “you’re my slave?”
because it sounds an awful lot like the connotation is closer to “friend” than “slave”
or are you going to say that i can’t ever use that connotation because i was born with the wrong skin color?
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU EVEN WANT TO SAY IT? WHY?
Why in the hell do you want to call people niggers? What in your life is so fucking important that nigger is ok for you to say around black people?
Listen, if you have a group of people with a history of oppression by the hands of white people (whether they are a friend, colleague, coworker, acquaintance, random stranger.) and they say you as a white person are doing something racist, it makes me uncomfortable/not feel safe/threatened/uneasy you stop. If you don’t stop, you’re a giant racist dickhead.
just because a bunch of black folks say you cant say nigga or nigger or whatever in whatever context doeesnt have some cosmic censor to keep it from spilling from your pasty mouth. Please go to the west/south side of Chicago, Harlem, Detroit, Oakland, Houston, Atlanta and any place with a large black population nearest to you and say it as much as you fucking can. Please do. You deserve whatever comes to you.
i don’t actually call people niggers. i say the word to refer to the idea of the word, yes, but i never direct it at anyone. i do not call people nigger, nor do i call them other things like “bitch” or “fucktard” but i say those words to refer to the idea of the word.
i grew out of name calling when i was like… 12…
Well you need to understand that non-black people not saying the n-word is one of those culturally tactful things people are just supposed to do. ITs like not cursing in front of old people. or calling your parents friends or your friends parents by their first names unless instructed not to. They are things done out of respect and the people who dont do them do not respect the group the rule is for.
I could go into historically and socially why non-black folks shouldn’t say it but it all boils down to respect. You don’t know how the next black person is going to react to you saying the n-word. You don’t know how often they hear it or have heard it in their lives and what it invokes in them.
My parents are in their mid-fifties and they get triggered as fuck when white people say the n-word because of going through the civil rights movement. It doesn’t have the same reaction when my brother says it to his friends.
You reference it as if non-black people still don’t say it to hurt black people. Shit I got called the n-word last week at my job at a gay bar for kicking some dude and his boyfriend out for being too drunk.
So from one autistic person to another, you are arguing about something you have no cultural, societal, or historical reference to and don’t know how complex this topic is. I suggest you apologize for making statements you didn’t understand the weight of.
"Nigger", "kaffir", "coolie" and numerous other words are used for racial discrimination today just as they were decades ago. Why rappers use the word "nigger" in there songs, I have little to no clue. It’s like they’re trying to lessen the racial power of the word, but I don’t think it’s working because clearly, some people now find it cool to call other’s by a word that is loaded with racism - If rappers are trying to revolutionise the meaning of the word, it’s not gonna happen for a few lifetimes. There are people who have lived under apartheid who are still alive, children who have seen those governments fall, and it’s going to take a good few generations before these words take little to no effect. No matter how cool something sounds, you ought to question it and see what it really stands for, because you are going to unconsciously adopt that meaning when you use it.
I’ve come to the conclusion that Julie Plec isn’t the kind of producer who tries to have each of her characters develop and grow into something better as each season unfolds. Instead of devoting a certain amount of attention to each character, giving them their own individual arc or some sort of progress in each season, she has picked and chosen who she wants and lets the rest fall away until she finds them suitable again or some half-hearted attempt at giving them ‘something to do’ (AKA Bonnie Bennett and Tyler Lockwood. Let’s not forget Matt Donovan) And to make it even worse, the characters that she has chosen to focus on, haven’t exactly made much progress themselves.
The plot holes, flaws and discontinuation in this show (which has nothing to do with the characters) is a result of inconsistent writing.
As a producer, I’d think that the characters you are writing for, are your babies. You want the best for every one of them and you will always have a purpose in mind or some kind of journey for them to go through to keep things interesting and stimulating.
As a female, you will write female characters who can empower, empathise and be used as an example for young women who are watching your show.
As a show that has limited persons of colour among the cast, you ought to be smart enough to know that conforming to racial stereotypes in the 21st Century is not the way to go.
Having one of the strongest female witch characters on the show playing doormat to Elena Gilbert for 5 seasons is not realistic at all. Are you afraid of your lead female character’s ass being kicked by her best friend? Are you afraid of having a powerful character stand up for herself? Unless I’m seeing a major apology session happening between Damon and Bonnie, or Elena and Bonnie, I don’t see why Bonnie is being written as so tolerant. She is not a slave. She does not owe any character anything.
Let’s face it. If anything, you should be very careful of how you write a character like Bonnie Bennett. Being the only poc, she should be treated and written equally, just as any character, and a failure to do so proves just how ignorant one can be of all this.
On the feminist front, this show doesn’t do it’s viewers any favours. Yes, Caroline and Elena are getting action and being Fun, Fearless Females, but what about their intellect? What about their courage and values and strength? It is rare to see these things come season 5.
From a Bonnie Bennett fan standpoint, it’s a disappointment. Anger at first. But disappointment. Still.